If you don’t get them now, will you ever?

Posted on August 16th, 2010 in Hobby Trends, JSP, Jamborees by ramore

Just as I blogged earlier that we may never know what all was issued for the 2010 Jamboree, I am thinking there is a corollary. If you don’t get these now, will you ever be able to get them? Right now is the best availability of these. Prior to the Jamboree, eBay had around 74,000 items in the Boy Scouts category. Actually it had dropped as low as 64,000 in late July. Now it is over 81,000 after getting as high as 84,000. We were partly to blame for this bump. :-)

In our trading we also picked some older JSPs but not many. Most of what we got were from 2005 but we even got some back to 1997. The older JSPs turn up from time to time but very few collections are coming out. Thus, if you are trying to fill in older issues you might find some local ones at local TORs or have to do an awful lot of searching on eBay and dealer sales lists for a long time.

I can tell you this is true about Jamboree neckerchiefs too. I have been picking them up for a few years now. I am more likely to find older, pre-1973, neckerchiefs than I am newer ones. The problem is the same as with modern JSPs. They are dispersed amongst 32,000 participants and are sitting in their closets/attics/basement. There they’ll sit for a generation or two.

Live Blogging the Jamboree - This is Wrong Redux

Posted on July 31st, 2010 in BSA Info, Hobby Trends, Jamborees by ramore

Starting two Jamborees ago, Jere Ratcliff as Chief Scout Executive (CSE), maybe it was Roy Williams, began handing out a patch to Scouts attending the Jamboree that he met. This year Bob Mazucca continued the new tradition with his own CSE patch:

Chief Scout Executive Jambo 2010 patch - front

Chief Scout Executive Jambo 2010 patch - front

Handing these patches out to Scouts is a nice touch by the Chief.

Until I turned it over…:

Boy Scouts of America CSE - Made in China

Boy Scouts of America CSE - Made in China

Now I posted last spring about the BSA being at best being insensitive, at worst being out right dumb, by having certain patches relating to the American labor movement made in China. Somehow I’m feeling that this is worse because it indicates our leadership does not get it. The comments are the same; he’s either being insensitive at best or dumb at worst. Now I hope our Chief is too busy to be designing and ordering patches but it means he is not being served well either by the Supply Division or by his assistant (who gets his own badge). But neither did he catch it.  He could at least have had his staff take the sticker off to make it less obvious. But no… they couldn’t even do that much. What message are they sending to our Scouts? What message are they Sending to our volunteers? Has he not looked at unemployment levels by age group (it is much worse for those under 30)?

The number I am hearing is that the Scouts need to raise $175 million to build the new jamboree site, more on that in another blog. How much are they asking for from China? Why should any American employee support Scouting? This patch is bad for our brand. It is bad for our leadership. Same conclusion as before - some heads must roll.

Live Blogging the Jamboree - Spoofs are down

Posted on July 31st, 2010 in Fakes, Jamborees by ramore

There does not seem to be as many spoofs this year. One was some Marvel characters which confused some of the Scouts because of the Theodore Roosevelt Council set they heard about. Here are a couple I saw come through Collections MB.

Live Blogging the Jamboree - Marin’s Star Wars

Posted on July 31st, 2010 in Insignia, JSP, Jamborees by ramore

Marin Council did Star Wars again (they were the ones behind a Yoda set a few jamborees ago that were the rage of the Jamboree). They have three troops that each have a JSP and then each patrol has their own patrol medallion (a total of 12). Below is a picture of six of them. Some are confusing these as their JSPs but their JSP is a standard shape and is also a dye-sub patch.

These patches were priced at $200 for the 12 before the Jambo and $250 per set after. I don’t have a production quantity yet.

Live Blogging the Jamboree - Flashes & Music

Posted on July 31st, 2010 in Jamborees by ramore

Several councils, Central Florida has a whole set, put small electronics on the back of the patches. Below is one from Burlington County Council, NJ with a flashing eye (see patch centers as the new trend):

Central Florida added music generators.

Conquistador has JCPs with UFO’s and flashing lights. It will be interesting going through air port security for some.

Live Blogging the Jamboree - More than just hot air

Posted on July 31st, 2010 in Jamborees by ramore

The hot air balloonists were present again. They were starting out Friday morning at the end of the exhibitor parking area (which did not make them very popular with exhibitors as it cut down the parking field). Also these guys were later selling their patches at a card table on Thomas Road. Given the selling prohibitions of years past this was pretty bold. Still, a nice site to see.

Live Blogging the Jamboree - The Mumble Alert System

Posted on July 31st, 2010 in Jamborees by ramore

With the weather warnings and the heat warnings the announcement system has become a running joke. Its loud and one can hear it throughout the camp but you can’t understand a word they say after ‘Attention, attention…” Basically after an announcement we all look around at each other wondering what did they just say? Then we take a guess and hope we’re right (a weather rock would be just as useful for those who remember these from summer camps.)

Live Blogging the Jamboree - The Mini-Monsoon

Posted on July 31st, 2010 in Jamborees by ramore

Missed a couple of days here. First was the monsoon that came through Thursday afternoon. We all became tent poles holding up the booth tops dumping out the water. Then it was picking up all of the soaked items. The sand drained most of the water away but everyone was walking around with wet clothes for the rest of the day.

On Friday we were swamped at the merit badge booth. We helped over 188 Scouts to complete and earn the merit badge. Heat broke so we only had a few hours of black flag, i.e., over 90 on the heat index.

Still haven’t seen much of the Jamboree and probably won’t. We’re one of the most popular booths at the Jamboree. Hats off to Paul Orgeron (Piedmont, CA), Eva Shoemaker, Gumby , Jim Erickson, Jef Heckinger, Harry Hinrichsen, Larry Trook and many more that I am missing (I got ‘delegated’ to be in charge today.)

Live Blogging - Rumors are rife

Posted on July 27th, 2010 in Jamborees by ramore

Lots of talk about the WV site won’t be ready for the 2013 Jamboree and thus the potential to be back at A. P. Hill. Part of the issues with WV - infrastructure - no utilities, no flat spaces, limited road access. Hmmmm…

Live Blogging the Jamboree - New Patch Types? Dye Subs

Posted on July 27th, 2010 in Hobby Trends, Jamborees by ramore

First event where I’ve really seen patches using a new process called ‘dye sublimation’. These first surfaced a few years back at the World Jamboree I believe and I’ve seen some Michael Feigenbaum designed. He said he worked with manufacturers in Asia on the process.

The Merit Badge Midway staff patches have a dye sub center. Here’s a picture of the San Francisco Bay Area Council JSPs:

I don’t know if we’ll call these ’twills’ or a new category. What do you think?


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