Info Coming out on 2013 BSA National Jamboree

Posted on April 21st, 2011 in Jamborees by ramore

I’m starting to hear about some of the operations plans for the 2013 National Jamboree. Some of these include:

  • There won’t be a Merit Badge midway
  • There won’t be an Exhibits area other than in the Action Centers
  • Staff will have to pass the Philmont trek physical
  • All staff will stay in tents that might, or might not, have electricity or a floor or netting,
  • Target number of participants is 13,000 – 15,000, less than 1/2 the last jamboree.

Now, inquiring minds might ask why is this so? Well, its because the place hasn’t been built yet. The BSA needs to bring in little things like water, electricity, waste treatment, roads, trails, etc.. Let alone the creation of buildings. There is, I’ve been told, an excellent amphitheater area that could hold 10’s of thousands so that’s certainly a plus.

The next question is why don’t we go back to A.P. Hill, excuse me, the military facility in Caroline County? The public answer is that the base is being re-activated and active duty personnel will be there by 2013. Maybe. And not to confuse the discussion that the base has 76,000 acres and most of the Scout activities are in wide-open fields and that creation of the Jamboree provides an excellent logistical training opportunity for the military. What the BSA needs is to have the Summit used twice for two national events in order to be eligible to host the World Jamboree. Also, it does create a motivation for getting donors to offer up resources now that there’s a pressing timeline and need.

I’ve been predicting for over 10 years that the next jamboree will have fewer JSPs than the last. I based this on the knowledge that there would be fewer councils. Well, I’m likely to be eventually correct but for different reasons.

What will be the impact on collecting? Harder to tell. There will be swapping but this may well be the smallest Jamboree ever (I’ll have to look up the numbers for 1969). Collecting I guess will be fine. Most important is that the event provides a great experience for the Scouts. It just that there will be fewer of them at this next one.

Referencing Scouting Magazine

Posted on April 20th, 2011 in BSA Info,Insignia,Jamborees by ramore

We’ve had in our Blogroll, a list of related blogs, the one for Scouting magazine. I’ll admit I haven’t checked it out in a while even though I work with their team on some magazine articles. They have really freshened up their site (I’m a little jealous). It covers adult Scouting topics which also includes insignia.
Scouting is the magazine for registered adults. Probably most collectors get it but not all. From time to time the magazine has produced great references of current program recognitions such as religious emblems, square knots, and announcing new insignia.

Here are some recent articles that you might find interesting. I did.

Why does silver outrank gold in Scouting awards?

The USA 2011 World Jamboree Contingent patch (which I think is near hideous, where’s Michael Feigenbaum’s design expertize when they need it?)

The 2019 World Jamboree coming to the National Summit
(we talked about this at the Dallas TOR, I need to post on this too.)

New Commissioner Knot Coming

Posted on April 20th, 2011 in Adult Position Badges,BSA Info,Insignia by ramore

At the upcoming National meeting there will be the introduction of a new knot for “Commissioner
Award of Excellence in Unit Service”. I don’t have the requirements yet. Knot collecting continues to be quite popular. George Crowl has a great web-site for these. Go to the Publications section. There he has Word documents covering all the periods back to the beginning. Enthusiasts even go after the type of backs and twill differences (some of which are VERY hard).

 

Collecting doesn’t have to be expensive

Posted on April 14th, 2011 in Hobby Trends by ramore

At the Dallas TOR and ISCA conference I gave a presentation on trends in the hobby. Some of the observations that I made were; that the Scouts issued more patches in 2010 than any year before; that one could spend the rest of their life just collecting 100th anniversary items, and; that it could cost over $10,000 to get all of the JSPs and jambo issues. One of the participants asked that given so much stuff and what it would cost just for trading stock how can a Scout begin collecting? The answer is, for any Scout or Scouter, is that what to collect is only limited by one’s imagination. One does not have to collect what’s expensive.

As examples, for years a couple collectors in Texas collect ‘o-ree’ patches – not every camp-o-ree but different ‘o-ree’ programs such as ‘freeze-o-ree’ or ‘hike-o-ree’. Destry collects patches with Halloween themes on them. I collect an activity patch from every council (and used to collect state shaped patches).

At the Indy TOR I hooked up with Ted Thompson of Indiana who has a great collection around S.O.A.R. (Save Our American Resources).

Ted has even built a web-site for these. Google gives you these sites and templates for free!

It wasn’t that long ago that red and white community strips were completely ignored. They could be found for a dime a piece. Now many can sell for $10 or more or a 10,000% increase. Not that value increase should drive any collector (its certainly nice but don’t count on it nor let it drive you) but one does not have to collect what is already expensive to have fun. The only limits you have are the ones you place on yourself. Use your imagination to blaze a new trail (and oh by the way, if you have council activity patches in your dupes let me know. I guess I should post my CouncilHaves)

And, if you’ve got a web-site like Ted’s let me know and we’ll post it as well. We all benefit.


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