History of Dr. George J. Fisher with the Boy Scouts

Posted on February 15th, 2024 in Adult Position Badges,BSA Info by ramore

We just took our 400,000th picture of Scout patches. It was of the National Commissioner patch issued and warn by Dr. George J. Fisher. Dr. Fisher was instrumental in the development of the Boy Scouts of America serving as the first Deputy Chief Scout Executive (DSCE) to the first Chief Scout Executive James E. West. Fisher served as DCSE from 1919 to 1943 when he retired from the Scouts. Upon retirement he was named National Commissioner, the first since Dan Beard.

Dr. George J. Fisher as National Commissioner

Fisher’s Influence on Scouting

Fisher’s earlier youth involvement was with the YMCA. He served as President of their International Physical Directors society from 1904 to 1919.

William Murray, Charter Member of the BSA Executive Board, wrote extensively of Fisher’s contribution to Scouting. In Murray’s book, The History of the Boy Scouts of America (1937), he covers the first twenty-five years of the BSA. He references Fisher’s leadership and operational involvement with nearly twenty-four references.

Fisher was involved in the creation of the original twelve regions and building the Field Committee for the BSA. Per Murray, Fisher “had been from the beginning, an active volunteer in Scouting and had been first Chairman of the Committee on Badges, Awards, Scout Requirements and Uniform Design” (p. 149).

Fisher retained this position from 1943 until is passing in 1960.

The 400,000th Picture – 2nd National Commissioner patch

So here is our 400,00th picture of Scout patches we have taken. You can see Fisher wearing it in the black and white picture above. Here it is in full color.

Boy Scout OA Patch Restrictions

Posted on February 8th, 2024 in Hobby News,NOACs,OA,Section Conclaves by ramore

I came across an interesting booklet that came with one of our recent acquisitions. I had not seen it before. It is from 1970. It documents an era now generally passed but some of us remember from our youth. It records the patch restrictions for every lodge!

Collector Rory Freeman from Brooklyn, NY put it together. It is titled simply “1970 Order of the Arrow Lodge Flap Restrictions List“. It sold for $1. It was mimeograph printed and not fancy but remember this was before Adobe Pagemaker or any other computer assisted tools.

Cover to OA Restrictions booklet

In this era many (most?) lodges had some kind of restricted issue patch. By “restriction” we do not mean the modern era restriction of only so many made.

A personal example

My home lodge was Munhacke 88 of Portage Trails Council. My flap was restricted to one per OA honor. That is, when one completed his Ordeal he would receive one. One more could be bought when completing Brotherhood. One more could be bought if and when one was awarded Vigil Honor. It was considered “No trade.” That is, if one were found to have traded it, one could be kicked out of the lodge.

Restricted lodge flap for Munhacke 88

Now Rory gets this sort of right and sort of wrong. He mentions it being one per life (a common restriction at that time.) He also mentions though that we had a trading flap with the term “RTA” or “Restricted but trading flap available.”

Trading flap from Munhacke 88

I was awarded my Vigil Honor in 1973 at the last conclave for Munhacke as our council absorbed Wolverine Council out of Monroe, MI. Thus I had three of our restricted flaps. At that summer’s NOAC I could have traded one of my restricted flaps for a stack of flaps if I had wanted. But I honored the no trading restriction.

Inside the booklet

Rory records the various types of restrictions. Some being like Munhacke’s (or harder). Some were so many per year or work session.

List of patch restrictions
Inside example page from the Rory Freeman book

Patch examples

For some lodges at this time they even went to the point of number their restricted patches as they were issued. Here is an example out of Pennsylvania, Tunkhannock Lodge 476.

Their X3, not flap shaped but worn on the flap, was numbered on the back. Their earlier issues were not numbered.

Back of the 476 X3 showing the stamped number.

Other books showing restrictions

I am not sure the earliest printing of the Bill Price OA collecting books but Rory’s work might have pre-dated it or certainly coincided with it. Bill’s books were much more actively distributed and used from my experience.

1971 Edition of Bill Price OA collecting book
Inside of the Bill Price book

Due to lodge restrictions, some of the hardest lodges to collect a flap from were active lodges and not long merged lodges. The example pages from the Bill Price book show three of these. They include Kepayshowink 89, Canalino 90 and Tom Kita Chara 96. A survey collector Bob Cylkowski did at around this time put all three of these in the “Top 10 Hardest OA Numbers” along with Calusa 219 and Michikinaqua 155.

Original lodge letter from 1960 for Canalino 90
Canalino Lodge 90 S1 restricted flap

For Canalino, if one’s patch became damaged, one would have to turn their patch in to get a replacement. Each patch was numbered and associated with the lodge member. The patch turned in was destroyed.

Rory issued a couple of supplements but wrapped things up after one year of research and publishing. The supplements are included in the link to the PDF of the booklet.

Part of one of the supplements to the booklet.

Going beyond flaps

The supplement makes reference to lodge neckerchiefs. At this time many were just as heavily restricted as lodge flaps and in many cases more so.

My Munhacke 88 neckerchief was also one per life no trade. It is much rarer than the restricted flap as only a few lodge members bought neckerchiefs typically those going to conclaves or NOACs.

We were quite a sight to see though as a contingent all wearing this neckerchief as it was so distinctly colorful for the time period. A former lodge officer who was serving overseas during the Viet Nam war era arranged for the neckerchiefs to be embroidered there in a style that was not available here in the US. No two are alike. There are a couple of cloth differences. The first ones were embroidered on cotton cloth. The later ones were embroidered on rayon. The rayon ones were a pain to wear as the cloth rubbed against one’s neck.

Addendum

I shared this blog to some collecting groups on Facebook. Collector Bob Cylkowski shared a picture of the cover of a similar booklet put out by the Northern Illinois Traders Association (NITA) around this time.

NITA OA Restriction Booklet circa 1972


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